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Problem with VCarve and WinPc-NC USB

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(@bartcaminos)
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Hello,

I am Bart and a new user.
840 - HF - VCarve Desktop - WinPC-NC USB

We are experiencing an issue with exporting tool paths in the correct post processor for WinPC-NC USB.

What is the correct post processor to use in our case?
We’ve unsuccessfully experimented with a few formats and the support team from Stepcraft advised to use Mach 2/3 Arcs (mm).
However this rescales the design (scale factor is set to 1 XYZ) (see picture). The rescaling is very obvious in the pictures.
Also when testing the machine it appears that the Z axis is inverted which resulted in a broken bit ...

Can you advise which post processor to use ?

Apparently the designers from Vectric are working on an new post processor however I've purchased everything from Stepcraft and assumed it would be compatible.

Best regards,

Bart from Belgium

Bart from Belgium

Stepcraft 2/840 - HF - WinPC-NC - VCarve Desktop

 
Veröffentlicht : 03/11/2016 10:15 am
(@bartcaminos)
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Update,

The people from WinPc have indicated that the scaling of the toolpath is only a display problem and it does not effect the toolpath.

They also suggested to use the FLEXICAM ATC (mm) post processor which I am testing currently.

Bart

Bart from Belgium

Stepcraft 2/840 - HF - WinPC-NC - VCarve Desktop

 
Veröffentlicht : 05/11/2016 11:41 am
(@kilroy2)
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Hi Bart,

What's wrong with WinPC-NC ATC Arcs mm (*.nc)

Kilroy
(Also from Belgium)

 
Veröffentlicht : 05/11/2016 4:43 pm
(@bartcaminos)
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Hey Kilroy,

As mentioned the Z axis is inverted when I use WinPC-NC ATC Arcs mm (*.nc).
Which is very strange because when I test the WinPc software with the provided test files it works perfect.

When I use FLEXICAM ATC (mm) it works perfect.

From where ate you In BE maybe we can exchange some idea's.

Bart from Belgium, Tielt-Winge

Bart from Belgium

Stepcraft 2/840 - HF - WinPC-NC - VCarve Desktop

 
Veröffentlicht : 06/11/2016 11:16 am
Uwe
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(@ubo)
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If the Z axis is in the wrong direction, you can invert it here.

Gruß, Uwe WinPC-Nc V4, EstlCAM V11 / V12 www.ubo-cnc.de

 
Veröffentlicht : 06/11/2016 11:56 am
(@bartcaminos)
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Ubo,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes thats possible I know of the possibility.
However we would need to remember to do this every time we use the system (multiple users).
Knowing myself I can guaranty that I would forget it from time to time resulting is tool and material breakage.

So yes it's possible but not a perfect solution.
So far the tests wit the flexicam post prosessor where very good and we can just load the file and start working.

Bart

Bart from Belgium

Stepcraft 2/840 - HF - WinPC-NC - VCarve Desktop

 
Veröffentlicht : 06/11/2016 12:05 pm
(@cncmiller)
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Bart,

I use Aspire but the postprocessing is the same as VCarve.
Like Udo said check the invert Z-coordinates when using the DIN/ISO data format.
I save my work in "WinPC-NC ATC Arcs mm (*.nc)" and works fine for the Stepcraft.

Suc6

SC 1/420 + Gantry extension, Kress 1050 FME-P, NeJe 20W Laser, WinPC-NC USB v4.00, Vectric Aspire 9, SolidWorks 2021

 
Veröffentlicht : 06/11/2016 12:49 pm
(@teamtrapped)
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Hi Bart,

It seems like we are experiencing similar problems.

If I open my exported file from VCarve in WinPc-NC USB none of the tool settings are imported. I tried different postprocessing files but without any succes so far. I assume it is not intended to manually enter all tool settings each time I open a new toolpath from VCarve.

Maybe I'm missing something?

Jeroen

 
Veröffentlicht : 07/04/2017 11:55 am
(@teamtrapped)
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Small mistake, We use the Cut2D desktop software and not the VCarve desktop software. I don't know if this is a big difference?

 
Veröffentlicht : 07/04/2017 12:18 pm
(@cncmiller)
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Jeroen,

You will never see you tool settings in the WinPC program, they are generated within the G-code and will be read by WinPC.
You can see them by opening the editor (F7).

SC 1/420 + Gantry extension, Kress 1050 FME-P, NeJe 20W Laser, WinPC-NC USB v4.00, Vectric Aspire 9, SolidWorks 2021

 
Veröffentlicht : 07/04/2017 12:38 pm
(@teamtrapped)
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Thank you CNCMiller!

When I press (F7) I do see all settings from Cut2D.
Ready for testing! I will keep you posted!

Jeroen

 
Veröffentlicht : 07/04/2017 3:33 pm
(@teamtrapped)
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CNCMiller,

status: WinPC-NC USB does import all tool setting.

but it seems like the Z-axis is inverted like in Bart's case. When I start the program the spindel first dives into the material. second the spindel goes back up and begins to spin.

I tested the Flexicam ATC (mm) and Mach2/3 Arcs (mm) postprocessing.

Any ideas are more then welcome!

Jeroen

 
Veröffentlicht : 07/04/2017 4:07 pm
(@cncmiller)
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Can you send me all your settings in WinPC-USB?
By mail is also fine and Dutch is perfect:)

SC 1/420 + Gantry extension, Kress 1050 FME-P, NeJe 20W Laser, WinPC-NC USB v4.00, Vectric Aspire 9, SolidWorks 2021

 
Veröffentlicht : 07/04/2017 4:54 pm
(@cncmiller)
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Teamtrapped Jeroen,
check your private message 🙂

SC 1/420 + Gantry extension, Kress 1050 FME-P, NeJe 20W Laser, WinPC-NC USB v4.00, Vectric Aspire 9, SolidWorks 2021

 
Veröffentlicht : 10/04/2017 7:30 pm
(@hugonnier)
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Hello

Newbie in cnc with a 820 in USB and WIN PC USB
I have the same problem of spindel diving in the first place
Inverting Z axes doesn"t seem to solve the case

Any solutions find ?

 
Veröffentlicht : 16/04/2017 10:44 am
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