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Themenstarter
I'm a newbie looking to benefit from others' experience.
I've seen comments (from Rory) that "we don't like tool changes" - why not?
If I change tools in a job (say v-bit for end mill) I'm concerned at the pressure I am putting on the portal/Z-axis.
Can this cause problems with alignment of the job? Should I move X-axis all the way to the end switch to change tools? Am I worrying about nothing? I've not yet encountered problems (other than forgetting to re-set Z-zero after tool change - d'oh)
One thing I have found (confessions of a newbie here) is if you don't tighten the collet properly on the bit, it can seem fine until you plunge a few mm when the friction of the bit against wood is enough to cause the bit to rotate in the collet instead of cutting wood - very puzzling when it happens! This is what led to this post - I now exert significant torque with the spanner on the nut when fitting a bit, to make sure it is tight.
Hints 'n' tips greatly appreciated.
Donald
Donald
Learning from mistakes until I become an expert!
Veröffentlicht : 02/01/2015 11:57 pm
For each job that requires a tool change you should find a point where it is comfortable for you to change the tool. I tend to set this point as park position in WinPC NC, so for a tool-change you simply hit F9 and the SC goes to this position. Forgetting about adjusting the Z null happens more frequently when you are a beginer. When you destroyed some expensive parts like PCB end mills or maybe the machine table you will become more cautious. 😉
When changing the tool no pressure to any axis should be involved! In fact there is no need to use any other than a rotary force to loosen or tighten the collet.
If there is still a little force it will hardly change the position of the machine, because when stopped the motors still are under votage creating a holding force. Additionally the rotation of the spindles is translated to a movement, but a movement won't translate to a rotation as easy as the other way around.
Tightening the collet is simply something you need some practice in. The whole tool-holder parts are made in steel, so you can hardly brake anything there. It's more a question of tighten it that hart that allows you to loosen it again after the job is done without the need of a pneumatic wrench ;o)
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Gruß, Andreas
Veröffentlicht : 03/01/2015 12:30 am
Themenstarter
Thanks Andreas.
I was concerned that with one hand holding the spindle lock button in (HF350 spindle) and the other turning the spanner, I have no way of preventing torque being transferred via the toolholder clamp once the collet was tight; your reply has reassured me.
Donald
Donald
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Veröffentlicht : 03/01/2015 1:45 pm
So far I have only used Proxxon IBS/E spindles (2 pcs at the moment) and I take them out of a spindle holder for a tool change. Might be a good idea to have several spindles if one uses the same couple of different bits all the time. Probably not as practical with expensive spindles.
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Veröffentlicht : 04/01/2015 10:55 am
We don't like tool changes as it takes time and you have to re-zero 🙂 if you have time and patience it does not matter. But a general rule - its good to minimise the tool changes.
I always remove the spindle from the machine in both the proxxon and HF cases. The spanners and torque etc are such that if not done correctly you can put a lot of pressure on the machine. Personally I feel more comfortable removing the spindle and tightening the collet.
Its important to give the collet a good nip with the spanner as the vibration from the cutting can cause the cutter to move out relative to the collet and cause a mess.
Just my opinion - by no means "The best way"...
Veröffentlicht : 04/01/2015 6:29 pm
