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Stepcraft 2 in kickstarter.

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Frenske
(@papje)
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I saw the stepcraft 2 om kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/224743317/stepcraft-2-universal-desktop-cnc-3d-printer-for-e

Stepcraft 2 in kickstarter

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Veröffentlicht : 24/03/2015 9:49 pm
Worldhusky
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Year - must be some kind of secret because .... no one told us that!!!! 👿

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Veröffentlicht : 24/03/2015 10:16 pm
Frenske
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Maybe not so fair from stepcraft to do it like this way

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Veröffentlicht : 24/03/2015 10:30 pm
Andreas
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Wow .. it'll get full here in the forum.

What exactly do you mean by "not fair"? Do they have to ask for permission first? Is SC Inc. owned by SC or is it maybe some kind of franchise?

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Veröffentlicht : 24/03/2015 10:58 pm
Frenske
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I mean, here on the forum the stepcraft 2 has been discussed a lot. For me it's strange that stepcraft started a kickstarter campaign before the die-hards stepcraft users here on the forum doesn't now anything about it. It's also odd that stepcraft introduces the new models on kickstarter before the Intermodellbau 2015! Come on, let's face it, it's strange!

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Veröffentlicht : 24/03/2015 11:11 pm
Worldhusky
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Do they have to ask for permission first?

Certainly not and I really like to see on Kickstarter that they are already using pics from the German Forum (e.g. druckgott) for Advertising in the US. :whistle:

And they are asking for more pics without an offer for a copyright contract and - of course - no reimbursement.

And this 40 improvements on the SC1 which has lead to the SC2 - I'm sure that has nothing to do with this German Forum, right?

Yes - I agree with fgeer - that isn't fair play!

It's not only about tools it's also about skills! 😉

 
Veröffentlicht : 24/03/2015 11:24 pm
Worldhusky
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I just realized - we have to change the language or the Forum. 😉 Maybe a Mod can move this thread to the English section?

It's not only about tools it's also about skills! 😉

 
Veröffentlicht : 24/03/2015 11:59 pm
ZenziWerken
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Certainly not and I really like to see on Kickstarter that they are already using pics from the German Forum (e.g. druckgott) for Advertising in the US. :whistle:

Also das könnte man schon in die Kategorie Schindluder einordnen, auch wenn die Stepcraft GmbH & Co. KG davon vielleicht (noch) gar nichts weiß ...
Ich erinnere an den Beitrag von spur0 ...

Nun lässt sich die mehrfach beteuerte Aussage "Stepcraft liest im Forum mit" überprüfen.

Daniel
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Veröffentlicht : 25/03/2015 12:27 am
Worldhusky
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Ich erinnere an den Beitrag von spur0 ...

Komisch - ich habe auch die ganze Zeit diesen von mir gestarten Beitrag (den ganzen!) und die Meinungen dazu im Kopf ... :whistle:

Nun lässt sich die mehrfach beteuerte Aussage "Stepcraft liest im Forum mit" überprüfen.

Jetzt bin ich gespannt .... B)

It's not only about tools it's also about skills! 😉

 
Veröffentlicht : 25/03/2015 12:46 am
Michael Loger
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WTF ist Stepcraft doing? - Kickstart an existing Product?

This is for sure one of the most embarrassing ideas i have been seeing for a long time. I looked in the WhoIS for Stepcraft US and it is registered by Markus Wedel.

So what the hack they are doing? Kickstarter is not a WebShop, it is to pre-finance Ideas to convert an idea to a product. It is not an advertising and selling Plattform for existing Products.

Ridiculous just ridiculous ...

Cheers,
Michel

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Veröffentlicht : 25/03/2015 11:45 am
Andreas
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I guess this is the trick ... they finance V2 ... and they started kickstarter before official announcement of V2 on the fair.

And really ... if you have a look at other kickstarter projects, most of them show prototypes which do look too good to be build in a garage shop. I wonder if anybody would think about being a backer if you don't show something but only present your idea. Giving a timeline like ... 3 Month development time, outcome uncertain.

Actually the kickstarter campain will pre-finance the startup of a US based support team.

Yes, doubtfull, but ridiculous .. I don't know.

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Gruß, Andreas

 
Veröffentlicht : 25/03/2015 12:17 pm
Michael Loger
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Than my 840 V2 is a version the was shipped before the development was financed... :sick:

But this may explains the shortcomings of the 840 V2 :S

there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who dont

Stepkraft 2 840++, Kress 1050, Mach 3, Estlcam, Corel Draw, VCarve, PhotoVCarve, Vakuumtisch, Absaugung.

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Veröffentlicht : 25/03/2015 12:30 pm
Martina
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He, wär ja schön wenn ihr einem Deutschen auch die Möglichkeit gebt diesen Thread zu verstehen.... :blink:

Willy

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Veröffentlicht : 25/03/2015 12:30 pm
Michael Loger
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@Chatterhand - dein Post ist wirklich lustig, musste basierend auf dem Post in Kombination mit Deinem Nickname herzlichst lachen.

there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who dont

Stepkraft 2 840++, Kress 1050, Mach 3, Estlcam, Corel Draw, VCarve, PhotoVCarve, Vakuumtisch, Absaugung.

Beruf: Informatiker und IT Security Experte
(++ = Bessere Steuerung, stärkere Stepper)

 
Veröffentlicht : 25/03/2015 12:38 pm
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Moin,

He, wär ja schön wenn ihr einem Deutschen auch die Möglichkeit gebt diesen Thread zu verstehen.... :blink:

Willy, der Thread ist im falschen Forum gelandet, aber wenn du ihn trotzdem verstehen willst: Der Google Übersetzer. Mein Englisch ist nämlich auch "unterdurchschnittlich". :whistle:

sswjs, aka Jens

 
Veröffentlicht : 25/03/2015 12:40 pm
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